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[smashingorangeybit]

Very much this. With the previous system I played at least one turf a day. After playing with the new system for a week I've stopped playing. The idea is not bad, but as @smashingorangeybit said, I barely get anything interesting apart from favour (for new gangs maybe it is a good deal but for experienced gangs it doesn't seem so).

But even with rewards not being that good the thing that has make me not playing these last days is the reset system... You cannot open the reward until 20 hours have passed, but then you only have 4 hours or they got reset? It already has reset twice for me cause I didn't get anything interesting so I delayed the decision and when I went back the rewards had been reseted already. I think it should reset if 24 pass from the last time you fight a guilder mission, not if 24 hours pass from the last time you opened a reward, the way it is now doesn't make any sense to me.

I will still play from time to time as I like the game, but I won't play everyday. I think this new system it is quite more punishing than rewarding

I was back up to three crates yesterday morning, after the Christmas reset. But they were all boons -none of which I needed it wanted, so I didn't pick any, but continued playing, knowing the guilder mission was open in a couple of hours. Ho ho ho, (I didn't realise the reset happened so quickly) I completed another guilder mission & I'm back down to 1 box & a cheapo smoke grenade.

I'd rather my 5 to 10 daily faction, under the old system. Especially, as I've collected all of these crappie (I have no idea, as I've never used any) grenades, which I'm trying to buy a grenade launcher for, but anything other than a reclaimed version (20 range) is paid for by faction & I'm know saving my faction, in case Ratskins, Arbites or Spyers get released (& I can't earn faction anymore, on even a semi regular basis).

Had anyone else found the trade post has more higher level kit, which costs faction?

SOB

 

[Padré Luke]

Had anyone else found the trade post has more higher level kit, which costs faction?

Szmesiorindzsibit

Yea. If you mean "favour" by "faction".
Just send over to the tradin' post some dudes with big brains on 'em.

 

[Chronos]

Had anyone else found the trade post has more higher level kit, which costs faction?

Yes, now I have more or less the same number of weapons and same quality, but before just the two or three best ones were available to buy with favour, now there are easily 6-7, therefore the options for buying with credits are reduced

I think being able to buy items with favour is good (both for players and developers) but I think that shouldn't reduce the options for buying them with credits, having both a credits and favour cost and being able to use the currency you want would be more reasonable.

 

[Ewan Lamont]

There has been no reduction in the kit available for credits. This has always been based on the intelligence and skills of guys sent to the tech bazaar. The favour only items are selected at random from items that you could have got at the tech bazaar (a 1% chance or higher of appearing) but failed the rng check and so are likely to be the rarer items.

 

[Ewan Lamont]

WE

Very much this. With the previous system I played at least one turf a day. After playing with the new system for a week I've stopped playing. The idea is not bad, but as @smashingorangeybit said, I barely get anything interesting apart from favour (for new gangs maybe it is a good deal but for experienced gangs it doesn't seem so).

But even with rewards not being that good the thing that has make me not playing these last days is the reset system... You cannot open the reward until 20 hours have passed, but then you only have 4 hours or they got reset? It already has reset twice for me cause I didn't get anything interesting so I delayed the decision and when I went back the rewards had been reseted already. I think it should reset if 24 pass from the last time you fight a guilder mission, not if 24 hours pass from the last time you opened a reward, the way it is now doesn't make any sense to me.

I will still play from time to time as I like the game, but I won't play everyday. I think this new system it is quite more punishing than rewarding

We can certainly look at changing the thresholds on the reset system for the daily reward. What sort of timescale does everyone feel is reasonable for the daily reward before it should reset?

 

[Chronos]

There has been no reduction in the kit available for credits. This has always been based on the intelligence and skills of guys sent to the tech bazaar. The favour only items are selected at random from items that you could have got at the tech bazaar (a 1% chance or higher of appearing) but failed the rng check and so are likely to be the rarer items.

Well that's quite weird then... I haven't changed my tech bazaar asigned gangers for a lot of time (months with the same setup, same skills and equipment) and the items I got were quite consistent until the last update (having easily twice as many favour items). And it has been that way maybe 10 times since then, so I assumed that was something that was changed, so when @smashingorangeybit said he noticed the same behaviour I thought it had been deliberately changed that way

I must recognize however that I haven't played the last few days, so maybe it has changed or I just hit a bad RNG strike, but there were to many hints that pointed to that mechanism having being changed.

 

[smashingorangeybit]

There has been no reduction in the kit available for credits. This has always been based on the intelligence and skills of guys sent to the tech bazaar. The favour only items are selected at random from items that you could have got at the tech bazaar (a 1% chance or higher of appearing) but failed the rng check and so are likely to be the rarer items.

Intriguing. If it's randomly done (& like @Chronos, my tech bazaar squad hasn't changed their intelligence skill value or added the skill to see extra items), it's getting very skewed. There are more items for faction & they aren't significantly higher quality. I'm not, for example suddenly seeing melta guns at higher quality than standard & even those only appear around 50% of the time.

It was made apparent, when I wanted to purchase a higher quality grenade launcher, but they were only coming up for faction, for quite a few cycles, until 1 recently, but that's a whole different thread

SOB

p.s. 'guys' sent to the tech bazaar - we're not allowed to use that term at work o

 

[smashingorangeybit]

WE

We can certainly look at changing the thresholds on the reset system for the daily reward. What sort of timescale does everyone feel is reasonable for the daily reward before it should reset?

4 hours is definitely too short. If I complete a guilder mission before bed (bad habit I know) & the 20 hour timer is up within the next couple of hours, but more than 4 before I wake up, then I'm going to be back to the beginning.

Would 8 or 12 hours mess up your original strategy for the timings?

SOB

 

[Padré Luke]

Yep, 8 or 12 hours or even more.. like an additional 20, maybe?
Or maybe not a full-scale reset then, just a "dropping-out-of-favour": degradation of gains, meaning the quality or quantity of Guilders' favour. (!)

 

[Kuleczka87]

I guess I can call it overluck.
In my humble opinion warband solution could be good - reducing 20h timer after commercial. By the way I guess if we can check chance to drop favour, and other boons in % it would be easier to handle that. Also in other place I feel lack of description in this game.

 

[Padré Luke]

I feel lack of description in this game.

Yes, you're not the only one, we've called the devs' attention to this already, they're on it.

'Bout that other stuff..... : I'd go with the smoke 'nades or the 4... maybe the 6 favour points.

 

[Kuleczka87]

I'd go with the smoke 'nades or the 4... maybe the 6 favour points.

And I take 12 favour ... What a lust. Shame on me...

 

[Padré Luke]

How COULD you!
ama go home nao an' crie


.........
But yeah, I just wanted to point out the blatant redundancy.

 

[Chronos]

WE

We can certainly look at changing the thresholds on the reset system for the daily reward. What sort of timescale does everyone feel is reasonable for the daily reward before it should reset?

Hi, was this changed in any way? If so what makes the daily rewards reset? I wouldn't like to have my rewards reset again for taking a bit of time to decide which reward should I take. So, how is it working now? What makes your rewards to reset? Not playing guilder missions? Not choosing rewards? Not playing the game?

 

[Son of Orlock]

Logged in today and had five boxes to choose from, didn't fancy any of the options - smoke and incendiary grenades Munda boon pyrae boon etc. Left it alone went and played the guilder mission then had six boxes to pick from and completely different options!?!? Took the twelve favour working towards unlocking delaque. Seems very odd that the contents of the boxes changes like this. Does it reset after every successful guilder mission?? On a side note I'm not sure if Dev's are aware but one of the boons says it gives a discount for customized outfits in transit tunnels- I've never been charged credits for the changes made in transit tunnels, it says 'mono mesh 500 credits' but doesn't take the credits from stash when I click purchase, always been this way in both my gangs.

 

[Shangular]

Hi, was this changed in any way? If so what makes the daily rewards reset? I wouldn't like to have my rewards reset again for taking a bit of time to decide which reward should I take. So, how is it working now? What makes your rewards to reset? Not playing guilder missions? Not choosing rewards? Not playing the game?

Guilder missions can be attempted every 8 hours. Each successful completed adds one chest option to open, max of 6. These chests can be opened every 20 hours. However, one chest will disappear after 24 hours from the last successful guilder mission.

 

[Chronos]

Guilder missions can be attempted every 8 hours. Each successful completed adds one chest option to open, max of 6. These chests can be opened every 20 hours. However, one chest will disappear after 24 hours from the last successful guilder mission.

Nice, thanks! That seems much more reasonable than before, that I think it was all chests were reset 24 hours after you chose one of the rewards, so you only had 4 hours from the moment a new reward was available until all reset again.

 

[Morte]

With new up date either having very bad luck or favor is much harder to get. Anyone else noticed change. Developers was there a change made to how often favor rewards dropped?

 

[smashingorangeybit]

With new up date either having very bad luck or favor is much harder to get. Anyone else noticed change. Developers was there a change made to how often favor rewards dropped?

I play a cycle everyday & may see favour once or twice a week. The statement about it averaging out the same as the old system must mean I'm going to get 6 boxes of favour a day for months

I generally end up picking the combat drugs or first aid kit, so I can sell them off I need to, as they're worth more credits than the 1.5k which is often in box 6.

SOB

 

[Shangular]

Yup or I’ll choose that one slavers guild boon when I’m ready to level up some gangers in scrap zone.